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Old 11-10-2016, 02:23 AM   #1
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Might as well get started.

Will Trump be a one term president? Cutting taxes for the rich, greatly increasing the deficit, but most especially, defaulting on our debt will have catastrophic global consequences. Ending Obamacare and cutting Medicaid, food stamps and subsidized housing will make life much harder for the poor, most especially, senior citizens. So there is a sizable group who will be angry during the next cycle. Persecution of immigrants seems to alienate the Latino voters. A recession is guaranteed in the next administration. If Trump is lucky it will start next year and the country will bounce back during 2019 and 2020. he can then blame Obama for the recession and take credit for the recovery. Will he even want to run at the age of 73?

Who will the Democrats turn to? Where is their next generation of leaders coming from? Elizabeth Warren is 67 and has denied any interest in the presidency. Does she have an apprentice? If people are suffering in 2020, and I believe that the country will be in worse shape then, a populist firebrand will receive a lot of votes.

One thing that really bothers me is the decided tilt towards right-wing nationalist parties throughout the globe. The spirit of cooperation and vision of a united, peaceful world are rapidly fading. It has been 71 years since the last global war ended. Given our species bellicose history and preference for mass murder as a method of population control, one must anticipate that the slide into global war has already begun.
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Old 11-10-2016, 02:34 AM   #2
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"One thing that really bothers me is the decided tilt towards right-wing nationalist parties throughout the globe. "

Funny that the thing that bothers most of us is how far the democrat party has swung to the extreme left. If they ever want to win anther election in my lifetime they'd best reject the Warrens and Sanders goofballs and move closer to the middle.

As far as a possible coming recession, Obama owns that one.
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With how crazy this one went; if it goes the distance; then my money is on Michelle Obama being the first woman POTUS, as well as first wife of a previous POTUS to serve a term herself. She's both intelligent & honest enough to stand in my considered opinion...
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I don't know about all those assumptions you make, 242x rated?If they'll even be remotely true, during a Trump tenure? But I do know one real important thing, if he can take away all the freebees illegal aliens alone get per year, it could save the American tax payer 538 billion dollars per year.That would buy a lot of things for citizens like you, now wouldn't it?!

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/top-20-fa...ill-shock-you/

http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...llect-welfare/

http://newstalk1290.com/five-reasons...stroy-america/


Or even much more money will be saved,for the US tax payers, when we add the insanity of flooding the US with ME immigrants , who Hillary herself stated couldn't possibly all be vetted.& to think many sources state Hillary wanted up to 1 million , of these 98% Muslim immigrants,in her 4 year term, to bring here with nothing much to do, but live off we who pay the bills!

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag...are-christian/

http://cis.org/High-Cost-of-Resettli...stern-Refugees

& we wonder why Clinton wasn't elected by the people who pay dearly here!

No, most of you are wrong here, who say we always let in millions of immigrants per year. During the Great Depression we did not, & also not many during WWI & WWII. This was always adjusted , in the past by much more patriotic politicians, who had some common sense. Today & over the past 4 or 5 decades, since about the late 1960s, this has gone out of control, & millions of immigrants, with little hope of ever finding good employment, are being ushered in her by bureaucrats like Hillary Clinton.Why? To get their votes for generations to come.They care less that the MC has to pay for them by taxes like they mandate & raise every year.

I guess one must pay taxes here to understand this logic, in the first place!
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"One thing that really bothers me is the decided tilt towards right-wing nationalist parties throughout the globe. "

Funny that the thing that bothers most of us is how far the democrat party has swung to the extreme left. If they ever want to win anther election in my lifetime they'd best reject the Warrens and Sanders goofballs and move closer to the middle.

As far as a possible coming recession, Obama owns that one.
Could it be because the left wingers want to stay in power for eons, by taking away from those who have something & giving it away to those who have very little?Taking away the wealth from the MC is a way to stay in complete power by the top 1 or half % of the elites, a tool that has been used for all nations. That's what caused most revolutions, & in a way you have seen one here, in this election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R-Iz--e6Vc&t=87s
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Most economists believe the recessions are a function of the business cycle and the government can do little to influence them. Unfortunately, part of Keynes' theories were adopted. Political reality stands in the way of accumulating surpluses in boom times.

Sanders isn't really a Democrat. He is a socialist who always ran as an independent and only changed his affiliation when he decided to run for the presidency. Don't you think that Elizabeth Warren is making valid points about the systematic destruction of the middle class? I mean, I worked for banks and can assure you that they are tools of, by and for the wealthy. I sometimes feel like she is the only person who has our backs.

Of course the Democrats have their left wing lunatic fringe. Just as the Republicans have their right wing lunatic fringe. I mean, I live in Oakland, California and deal with a truly left wing common view every day. But who is speaking for the vast group of moderates in the middle ground? How do we move beyond ideological polarization and arrive at a workable consensus? 44% of voting age citizens did not vote. We can assume that much of the country does not feel their views are being represented.

By the way, you do know that Clinton won the popular vote with a significant portion of absentee ballots in California yet to be counted, don't you? So it is not like Trump has a big mandate. It must also be noted that California, New York, and Washington with their large immigrant populations and economies that interact with foreign markets are heavily Democratic. I also spent many years doing international accounting for biotech, high tech and transportation firms. I can assure you that all human beings are much more alike than different. Each nationality does have its little quirks, too.
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Funny that the thing that bothers most of us is how far the democrat party has swung to the extreme left. If they ever want to win anther election in my lifetime they'd best reject the Warrens and Sanders goofballs and move closer to the middle.
You must be on your deathbed and if so I will be praying for you. Her biggest mistake was running towards the middle, in a polerized electorate. The next Democratic President will be a true progressive. Progressives looked at her and the party the same way they saw Bush 41 in 92'.This election can be a nice learning experience, it is just a question of having the right take aways...
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I'd migrate to the US to vote for him
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I'm running my friend!Just come here illegally or otherwise , & "write" me in on the ballot for POTUS!
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Someone on the "2016 thread" stated what I think swayed the election for Trump.The Democratic party has went WAY left, & is & has been for a while, & not representing who they once did, the middle, the centrists if you will, & the MC .Its now a party for illegal immigrants ,for all the masses who come here with NO chance to ever find living wage employment & the Democrats tell them & give them all the free "things" they need to live on.The exclusive party for those who immigrate here & want the people of this nation to conform for them,& to accommodate them, not only monetarily but culturally & not come here to assimilate.Its the party that represents minute "fringe" & "boutique" groups, like men who want to use women's restrooms & women who want to piss in urinals.

If the GOP finally listens to the MC & the centrists,not only to the equally bad as being far left, the lunatic far right, like in reality, Trump always was a centrist, it may be the main stream party here, & the Democrats may be the ones taking a back seat now that Hillary cannot flood the nation with illegals & massive immigration from the ME Muslims like she planned on?Now since Clinton lost , the new "ultra liberal Democrats" cannot implement their plan to "buy" these groups votes, by giving them all the free things, that will keep this new Democratic party in office for decades. The Democrats now appeal to groups not like what others came fore before them for,namely Freedom, but the "freebees" they come for now, & is given to them by both parties, especially the Democrats.Really if illegal or even legal immigrants here got nothing , no freebees, like many of our forefathers who came here , do many think they'd still want to come here?In the past they came to here to work, in the tremendous opportunities & jobs we once had, in unbelievable abundance.But now come here, as one cannot blame them for , but our politicians are at fault for, giving them ridiculous benefits even our own citizens cannot get, & providing them a living , that is very often passed on to their offspring for decades!

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